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Hi,

we know the Nagler helicopters; NH-1,NH-2,NH-120,NH-140,NH-160,
NH-161,Honcho Model-100 (Honcho Model-193),Honcho Model-200,

Honcho Model-202,VG-1,VG-2 and VG-4.


Also here is anther Helicopters and Projects;

Model-228 Phoenix was homebuilt lightweight helicopter

Model-255 light helicopter with Allison 250-C20B turboshaft engine

Model-205 was a low-cost circulation-control rotor helicopter
proposed to the Naval Air System Command in 1972

Model-217 was a pressure-jet design study using a steam engine
powerplant

Model-276 was a mid-1992 design to investigate the possibilities of
using the pressure-jet principle in an attack helicopter

Model-325 was developed from Model-280

Model-421 was a four seat helicopter

Model-280 (Voljet) was four/five seat light helicopter

Model-281 (Voljet) was ultra-heavy lift helicopter of the pressure-jet
configuration



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I'm sorry hesham, I'm confused. Which models are in the attachments?

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Hi No name,

1- Model-193 or Honcho Model-100
2- Model-200
3- Model-202
4- Model-228
5- Model-255
6- Model-325
7- Model-280
8- Model-281


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Thank you sir!

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Nagler helicopter with shrouded rotor, but does it have a designation?

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Leela25 wrote:

Nagler helicopter with shrouded rotor, but does it have a designation?


Looks more like a shrouded tail rotor to me...



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hesham wrote:

Hi No name,

1- Model-193 or Honcho Model-100
2- Model-200
3- Model-202
4- Model-228
5- Model-255
6- Model-325
7- Model-280
8- Model-281

 


For the Helicopter in the patent,really I don't know it,and for
the eight drawings to Nagler helicopters,they were as I mentioned
before,and to be more specific,and as the drawings locations;
1- Model-193  2- Model-200  3- Model-202
4- Model-228
5- Model-255  6- Model-325  7- Model-280
8- Model-281


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Normally the attachments' locations in a post depend on the expanding and contracting of a user's explorer window.

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Leela25 wrote:

Nagler helicopter with shrouded rotor, but does it have a designation?


 

Hi Leela,

the Model 421 was four seat helicopter,and in the patent I see

it is also four-seat,I can't determine.

 

Here is anther Nagler/Phoenix helicopter,may be it was Model-217

 

http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=PgEAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA126&dq=phoenix+helicopter&hl=ar&ei=ThK7TOTOG

MSCOsSG2I0N&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC0Q6AEw

AQ#v=onepage&q&f=true



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Hi all,

here is also the Voljet Model-585;



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hesham wrote:

Here is anther Nagler/Phoenix helicopter,may be it was Model-217

 

http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=PgEAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA126&dq=phoenix+helicopter&hl=ar&ei=ThK7TOTOG

MSCOsSG2I0N&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC0Q6AEw

AQ#v=onepage&q&f=true

 

This is a Phoenix Heligyro Corporation aircraft, not Nagler. I don't see a mention of it being a part of Nagler at all in the add you linked to.



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Commander31 wrote

 

 

This is a Phoenix Heligyro Corporation aircraft, not Nagler. I don't see a mention of it being a part of Nagler at all in the add you linked to.

 


If you see the first post,you will see the links for Nagler company

and its life.
Here is the Nagler Model-205

 



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A most interesting webpage about Nagler is Hoyt Stearns' My Dr. Bruno Nagler pressure jet helicopter site, containing rare and never-seen-before photos of the workshops, the test-rigs and some undesignated prototypes.

Most interesting there is a video of the Voljet SX-255 with inflight coverage (very similar to the Model 205 shown above):

http://hoytstearns.com/NaglerScans/Voljet6.wmv

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Good find!

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Hi,

a more info about Phoenix

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Originally posted by Stephane at SPF, from an email sent by Walter.



As you can see in images one and two below, the Eagle was not just a spinoff of the Phoenix, it simply WAS the Phoenix under a new name. Both ads use the exact same illustration, with only the stars removed on the tail (see images six and seven for the entire original ads).

Third image is a cutaway profile view of the Phoenix.

Fourth image shows a model depicted as an Eagle II, which seems to have a shorter frame than the first model.

Fifth image shows the "demo 1976" Eagle helicopter, obviously prior to the acquisition of the Nagler design, which has nothing in common with it.

Sixth and seventh images are the original Phoenix and Eagle ads.


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Thanks for posting, gents, I have learned something new about Nagler's activities.

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http://hoytstearns.com/NaglerScans/Voljet6.wmv

Voljet pressure-jet helicopter promotional video.



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Found great photos of Nagler aircraft over here;

http://hoytstearns.com/NaglerScans/ 

 

  • Employee with incomplete prototype
  • Rotor blades
  • Test pilot hovering Nagler prototype (two pics)
  • Nagler prototype instrument panel
  • Nagler's Vertigyro VG1 (Piper Pacer fuselage)
  • Employee with body mockups in Nagler prototype
  • Nagler's ram jet helicopter
  • Nagler turbine test stand
  • Bruno Nagler & Employee with prototype


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More.

  • Nagler's Vertigyro VG1 rotor head
  • Test pilot flying prototype
  • Nagler prototype
  • Turbine test stand
  • And a bonus: Hoyt Stearns flying the "Scorpion 1" around Falcon Field, Mesa, Arizona.


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Thanks Gunship. I did not mention that page before for lack of any information on what Nagler design this is, but of course it deserves some attention.

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http://hoytstearns.com/AHSpresentation/

  • Nagler-Rolz 54-V2, 1944
  • Model of a high-speed tip-propelled helicopter


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VolJet combat helicopter concepts by Jim Bryant:



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Jim Bryant himself also posted some of his work and some really neat photos over here:

http://stingraysrotorforum.activeboard.com/t50134245/voljet-prototype-photos-and-honcho-concepts/



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From Aero, October 1964, the Nagler Vertigyro VG-2, described as a kind of
series version of the VG-1, powered by an engine with 220 hp, length 5.46 m,
rotor diameter 10.97 , weight 740 kg, speed 240 km/h and a range of 400 km.



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Some more finds by Hesham, from Aviation Week, June 22, 1953:



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Hi,

here is Nagler XNH-1.

https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a045375.pdf



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Thanks! Another pic found here:

https://bbs.tiexue.net/post_11419928_1.html



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