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Does anyone else notice the flaw in the logic here?

http://news.yahoo.com/video/ces-2016-ehang-unveils-drone-104618830.html



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No... its waht they say it is, a drone that carries a passenger. That doesn't mean the passenger controls the drone (manned). ;)



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Leela25 wrote:

No... its waht they say it is, a drone that carries a passenger. That doesn't mean the passenger controls the drone (manned). ;)


 

A human presence no longer makes it a drone. It's autonomous, but it becomes a drone when there is no person involved except for a remote operator stationed on the ground.



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Have to agree. The passenger is still technically a pilot because he plots the course into the computer, which by all logic means he is in control while riding in it. Must be the language barrier confusing them. "manned drone" HA.

Funny how they talk about safety without an actual prototype flight. I'm with Hillberg on the danger... those unprotected rotors are scary for anyone going near it.



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Didn't you watch the video? There was a prototype flown and it looked like a smooth ride, all things considered.



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No, I have no sound ATM so when I scrolled down to the story I didn't notice a video. I stand corrected. Still, it doesn't exactly boast "super safe," or maybe I'm just too skeptical.



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Gunship wrote:

Have to agree. The passenger is still technically a pilot because he plots the course into the computer, which by all logic means he is in control while riding in it. Must be the language barrier confusing them. "manned drone" HA.


 So just a quadcopter with a fancy autopilot, got it. :P



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Gunship wrote:

No, I have no sound ATM so when I scrolled down to the story I didn't notice a video. I stand corrected. Still, it doesn't exactly boast "super safe," or maybe I'm just too skeptical.


 

Your skepticism is warranted. There's a number of issues that need to be addressed, including how this design would need to adhere to federal and international laws. I'm not just talking crash safety and other stuff like that, but keep in mind that manned and autonomous aircraft are regulated differently. Will this ground it or will regulations change with it? We won't know for sure until actual evaluations and demonstrations take place, which will thus prove its safety and performance. That little hop with the prototype doesn't count at all.



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Thank you, it bothers me to no end how often people misuse the word drone. This is no way a drone.......it has a frickin pilot, lol.



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CaptainD-pad wrote:

 it bothers me to no end how often people misuse the word drone. 


 

How often is that??



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How about when RC toys are incorrectly called drones by media? Drone is like a buzzword for anything that flies with remote control. UAVs are drones.....unmanned and carries surveillance systems, armament, etc. Calling this a drone is another misuse....while autonomous like a UAV is still carries a human to control it, thus he is a pilot(it is manned, not a drone)



-- Edited by CaptainD-pad on Thursday 21st of January 2016 03:57:30 PM

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Hah "buzzword"...

If we're going to be politically correct with the the usage of the word "drone," let's not forget what it actually was - a male honeybee. UAVs are called drones because of the similar sound they make. Over time the two just came to be synonymous. That's just the natural evolution of words and communication. You could argue your fingers off about the difference between hobby RC helicopters and military UAVs but the word is going to stick no matter what. Either you buy into the political paranoia that surrounds them or just shrug it off and move on.

The fact of the matter is that the aircraft in question is neither. It's a manned helicopter with autonomous flight capabilities. Think we've hammered that to death now?



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not a helicopter. disk loading too high and autorotation is missing try powered lift



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retroistic wrote:

Hah "buzzword"...

If we're going to be politically correct with the the usage of the word "drone," let's not forget what it actually was - a male honeybee. UAVs are called drones because of the similar sound they make. Over time the two just came to be synonymous. That's just the natural evolution of words and communication. You could argue your fingers off about the difference between hobby RC helicopters and military UAVs but the word is going to stick no matter what. Either you buy into the political paranoia that surrounds them or just shrug it off and move on.


The name originated with Delmar S. Fahrney's assault drone projects in the late 30s in homage to the Royal Navy's DH 82B Queen Bee. It had nothing to do with the sound they made.



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Stingray wrote:
Gunship wrote:

No, I have no sound ATM so when I scrolled down to the story I didn't notice a video. I stand corrected. Still, it doesn't exactly boast "super safe," or maybe I'm just too skeptical.


 

Your skepticism is warranted. There's a number of issues that need to be addressed, including how this design would need to adhere to federal and international laws. I'm not just talking crash safety and other stuff like that, but keep in mind that manned and autonomous aircraft are regulated differently. Will this ground it or will regulations change with it? We won't know for sure until actual evaluations and demonstrations take place, which will thus prove its safety and performance. That little hop with the prototype doesn't count at all.


 Not to mention the electronics and software being in compliance with FAA regulations.



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Seconding that.



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Gunship wrote:
retroistic wrote:

Hah "buzzword"...

If we're going to be politically correct with the the usage of the word "drone," let's not forget what it actually was - a male honeybee. UAVs are called drones because of the similar sound they make. Over time the two just came to be synonymous. That's just the natural evolution of words and communication. You could argue your fingers off about the difference between hobby RC helicopters and military UAVs but the word is going to stick no matter what. Either you buy into the political paranoia that surrounds them or just shrug it off and move on.


The name originated with Delmar S. Fahrney's assault drone projects in the late 30s in homage to the Royal Navy's DH 82B Queen Bee. It had nothing to do with the sound they made.


Some Predator pilots that I've talked to gave me the same story about the sound so I assumed it was true. Thanks for the info.



-- Edited by retroistic on Tuesday 2nd of February 2016 06:07:51 PM

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According to EHang, the EHang 184 is generically classified as an AAV (Autonomous Aerial Vehicle) to distinguish it from other existing autonomous systems, as "UAV" would obviously not be appropriate for this kind of machine.



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