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Date: Jan 17, 2011
Do You Really Need a Patent Attorney?......maybe not!
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Ok Folks,

Let us have a brief discussion about Patent Attornies. With regard to rotorcraft ideas, if your idea is really unique then you may not need a patent attorny. If your idea is an improvement of an existing system or sub-system, it would be good to have a patent attorny to help sort through your claims to be certain that your idea is not "parallel to another". When I started my patent I was on my 2nd tour in Iraq and I used a patent attorny at first. I was sent an email quoting about $2500 to $3000 bones to get to a patent pending status. When I went on R&R, I sent the drawings and a brief description and $550 dollars (not included in the filing price)to my attorny and he sent me a statement of confidentiality (make sure that it is signed in blue ink). After I went back to Iraq, he sent my wife a letter stating that the preliminary search was done and that my design was original... oh and by the way it's $11,000 bones to file. My wife called and said the quote was off, but he said.."I don't know who told you $3,000"

No, all hope is still not lost. Well, I told him "No thanks". I called the Patent Office and they told me what I needed and then I went to the Patent Office web site(USPTO) and down loaded the required forms. I went to freepatentsonline.com and printed off a random patent and made my patent look like that one with regard to spacing, font size and sterile drawings. If you can draw, it helps. If not, find a trusted friend or family member who can draw. It was only $550.00 to get to a patent pending status for "small entities" or independent inventors that are not a business. You're allowed 3 claims at no extra charge. If you need more than 3 claims to desribe your idea, it's $110.00 per additional claim. Still better than $11,000 bones! Lastly, do not listen to people who tell you you cannot do it on your own. Use caution, but do not be afraid to try. You want to file for a "Non-provisional Utility Patent". DO NOT FILE FOR A "Provisional" which is cheaper and easier, but you'll need to follow up with a non-provisional within 12 months, I believe it was. Do it right the first time. Put in the effort.

Dave



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Date: Jan 17, 2011
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Interesting! I should keep this in mind, since I always thought an attorney was needed wearther original or an improvement to an existing design. I have designed many aircraft in my lifetime (I am an aerospace engineer with Boeing, by the way) but have never thought of getting them patented. I think its a little too late now, seeing that most of my "visions" belong to the company now.

You can see some of my early ideas here if your interested:


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Sarah! where have you been? Busy at the "office" maybe? XDD



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Yes, actually. aww We are working on a very large project at the time so I haven't got the time to go online lately. Now I got sort of a break, but expect some inactivity for at least two more weeks.



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Yep

My old army buddy and Iwere discussing that issue. Je's a co-inventor an an idea with me...prior to his atttendance to Purdue, but he has to be cautious about his input. He "2 cents" were given some time before so we're in the clear. Boeing I'm sure can say..."you got the idea from working with us" I had the same issue when I presented the concept to Bell. At first they were worried about the army wanting it. After they found out that I was not in army aviation and that the research and design was done on my time and money, I finally got it cleared up with JAG. It has been difficult to get my foot in the door with the "industry" because I'm not a certified engineer, but I got my toe jammed in there. DARPA looked at it, but they just said the pay off for them would not be high enough for DOD.

Dave

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