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Unknown Chinese proposal, but looks a lot like a civil S-70 Black Hawk.

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Could it be the Z-X (or Z-10)?


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Sarah wrote:

Could it be the Z-X (or Z-10)?


No, and it sounds more like a Z-9 modification than the CHRDI Z-10. Not saying that I believe the Z-10 was its true designation (or ever was a project) but I think this is more closely related.


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Commander31 wrote:

No, and it sounds more like a Z-9 modification than the CHRDI Z-10. Not saying that I believe the Z-10 was its true designation (or ever was a project) but I think this is more closely related.


 

It sounds like it was a true project to me. If I remember right, this "Z-10" project merged with the Z-15/EC-175.



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CHAIG Z-7
 
(thanks to hanfoo for the images)
 
In 1969, the newly founded Helicopter Design and Research Institute was given the design task of the Z-7 Heavy Helicopter (HH) Project. This new HH's design targets were as follows; maximum takeoff weight 14,000 kg, payload 3,500 kg, maximum speed 240 km/h, maximum range 350 km and service ceiling 6,000m

By May 1975 the manufacturing of 97 percent of Z-7 parts and sub assemblies had been completed, two airframes assembled and 90 percent of vendor-furnished-equipment and components supplied. The full size static test was completed in 1979. The project was terminated in 1979 to focus the limited resource on the Z-8 project.
 
 


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Allow me to post the images from your source...



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I just found this in my older encyclopedic archives. Its a sketch I did of an unknown Chinese aircraft I found on the internet a while back, possibly based on the Z-9/Dauphin 2 airframe, with a nosewheel and an extra tailskid(?) under the tailboom. I cant seem to find any aircraft that matches my depiction here, but I think this could be - or could possibly be related to - the Harbin Z-X.

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Yet another mystery!

I just found this photo of a recently-unveiled "WZ-19" attack helicopter. I cannot find any legit information on this "project".


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Stingray wrote:

Yet another mystery!

I just found this photo of a recently-unveiled "WZ-19" attack helicopter. I cannot find any legit information on this "project".

 

And looky here! They are using one of your concept drawings of the WZ-10 at the Pakistan Defence Forum! Looks like they touched it up a bit too, it looks smoother. biggrin

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-defence/73865-chinas-wz-19-attack-helicopter.html



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Leela25 wrote:

And looky here!! They are using one of your concept drawings of the WZ-10 at the Pakistan Defence Forum! Heh, looks like they touched it up a bit too, it looks smoother. biggrin

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-defence/73865-chinas-wz-19-attack-helicopter.html


 

I was wondering how long it would take for one of you to find that. biggrin

But anyways, I tried to register at that forum, so I could reply back with the truth behind that drawing of mine, but no one activated me yet.



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Stingray wrote:

I tried to register at that forum, so I could reply back with the truth behind that drawing of mine, but no one activated me yet.



And the "truth" would be what exactly?



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555 wrote:

And the "truth" would be what exactly?


 

That the drawing is merely a concept of what I thought the WZ-10 looked like a year ago (maybe two years, I don't remember when exactly). I couldn't decide whether it had a conventional tail rotor or a Fenestron-type, so I drew them both in different configurations. Now someone is spreading this rumor that my second concept is this new "WZ-19". no



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Your concept looks way too much like the Tiger helicopter.

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-airfoil- wrote:

Your concept looks way too much like the Tiger helicopter.


 

It basically is the Tiger. I was copying off a profile drawing of it. brainless.gif



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Stingray wrote:

It basically is the Tiger. I was copying off a profile drawing of it. brainless.gif


 

Why?



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Because, like I said, it's a concept of what I thought the WZ-10 looked like back then. I thought it looked just like the Tiger, so that's how I drew it.

I think I tried to convince Wikipedia to take down the image once the guys at SPF showed me what the real thing looked like. They still have it up though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WZ-10



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Stingray wrote:
I think I tried to convince Wikipedia to take down the image once the guys at SPF showed me what the real thing looked like. They still have it up though...


It looks like it was removed to me.



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555 wrote:

It looks like it was removed to me.


 

'Twas me. I forgot it was "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit". aww



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There was a registration problem and no one resent the activation email. Maybe I'll send another message to the webmaster.

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Stingray wrote:

There was a registration problem and no one resent the activation email. Maybe I'll send another message to the webmaster.



No worries, I registered there. I'll tell them about the pic for you. ;)



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Thanks Leela!

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Posted a message. Awaiting a reply. biggrin



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Got a reply from SinoSoldier, the original poster of that thread. If you look at his first post he indicates that your second concept of the WZ-10 is the WZ-19, but now he's changing his story:

"The one at the very top is the WZ-19. The 2 ones at the bottom are the WZ-10."

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More fake pics here: :P



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-airfoil- wrote:

More fake pics here: :P


 

Dirty link, there's lots of adds and redirections hiding in there. I suggest no one visit that link unless you have good anti-virus software.



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Stingray wrote:
-airfoil- wrote:

More fake pics here: :P



Dirty link, there's lots of adds and redirections hiding in there. I suggest no one visit that link unless you have good anti-virus software.


 

Doesn't matter anymore, I just visited the link again and the blog was removed.



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Newest addition to the site:

 
Zhongyuan helicopter
 
Single-seat homemade helicopter built by Chinese farmer Wu Zhongyuan in central China's Henan province. The airframe is of wooden construction reinforced with steel pipes, with tricycle-type wheel landing gear. The aircraft is powered by one motorcycle engine driving a conventional 3-blade main rotor made from the wood of an Elm tree and a 2-blade tail rotor. It took about three months to complete and cost $1,600 to build. The aircraft was to fly at a hight of 2,600 feet but was grounded by the Chinese government for safety reasons.


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Nice find Stingray! Those little-known homebuilts must be hard to keep track of.

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The wheels look so small, like they will break under the weight of the airframe and the pilot!

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The wheels look so small, like they will break under the weight of the airframe and the pilot!


Brian Palmer


I agree. What are they wheels for a cart of some kind?



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